a Lot of people are afraid of the Kesb . Why?
The anxiety relates to issues that concern us. There are Fears that I have myself: What happens with me, when I’m older and maybe will demented? Who looks up to me? Much is uncertain. Are you afraid to lose control.

you will Feel this discomfort for the people?
Yes, in personal contacts, even in Private. If I meet someone and tell them where I work, the Opposite is often emotional. Some are compassionate: Oh dear, you have it easy. Others tell of their experiences with the Kesb.

FDP national councillor Marcel Dobler is touring with an E-precautionary order by the country and is overrun. What do you conclude from this?
There are a lot of questions, I experience that myself. The end of the year I held two presentations on the topic of “self-determination in old age”. Since I was assailed by the audience. A lot of people don’t know what the law says and why it needs part no precautionary order.

you Have a pension order?
no. I’m married, so my husband and I have mutual statutory right of Representation. In addition, we are in an age in which a pension order does not impose. As of right now, would my husband be able to represent me, to manage my assets and to decide on medical measures.

signatures collected for an Initiative, which wants to disempower the Kesb. They believe that the Initiative has a chance?
now, If not clearly communicated, then already. We need to tell people what it’s about: The applicable law strengthens the individual, the self-determination of the Individual and the solidarity of the family. There is a limit: Where the interests of the data subject are not respected, that is the Kesb. The Initiative aims to a different model: the family should decide – without supervision. This model is known in China and Japan.

The individual is now better protected than it would be with the people’s initiative?
Yes. The Initiative makes the family to a closed System. I would not want that. I say this as a citizen, not as Kesb-President.

Want your clients, the Kesb helps you?
There is everything. Some need help, have no family. Let’s see if someone in your environment, you want to be a counsel. In the adult protection law, we see almost only success stories. The people are grateful, to the extent that they noticed it. Resistance comes most of the family. If the victim rejects the help in Knowing what can happen to him, then we must accept that.

And in child protection, there are also success stories?
of Course. But we need to reduce often the first Fears and declare that we are the children away from the people. Often it is stated: Now that we have experienced, we see it quite differently. Why do I read so much Terrible?

there is also criticism that the Kesb professional advisers used instead of assists from the family. Why?
The law is clear: advisers from the family or request counsel, if nothing speaks against it.

What do you mean, “if not of it”? And how often does that happen?
A member can be personally unsuitable, because it is involved in, for example, of the same Inheritance. Or a national professional competence is missing, because he has been with the management of your own Finance difficulties. However, we support family members and request advisers to the extent that a Conservatorship is, for example, even with little computer knowledge. On professional advisers, we put, if no relatives are there and there is no request of the person Concerned. Sometimes it is a difficult disease pictures. As a professional, is advantageous.

Is not the biggest Problem of the Kesb that family work is not an exact science? How do you know that you prioritize the right cases?
It takes a lot of experience. Also, the experience that one tends to give the wrong cases, is a priority, because any unnecessary pressure. In child protection, for example, in disputed cases, the Problem is that the parents draw a lot of attention. To keep the views of the child, it is not always easy. It takes professionalism, Supervision and exchange.

your authority was involved in the case, Flaach, in which a mother and her children killed. This case has harmed the Kesb. What Lessons have you drawn from it?
The case Flaach has shaped me as a person and me in my work enormously. I heard of it on 2. January 2015, a day after it happened, went through my head: Now has happened what I feared and what have we left but never exclusive. Then came the Information of the Kesb will be attributed the blame for the death of the children, because they have not been placed with the grandparents. Followed by an incredible media attention and threats. Our authority was guarded for a week by a security service, employees of the police had protection. I came to my limits.

What conclusions have you drawn for the work of the Kesb?
We need to explain our work better and avoid that people get a false picture of the Kesb. A side effect of the Case Flaach is: We have then for the employees, the crisis intervention consulted. This supports today’s parents when it comes to out-of-family placement of a child.

the Kesb Is, since the fall seminar in co-operation with foreign placements?
We are all people, the experiences shape us. Therefore, it is important to reflect on the own Actions again and again. In addition, three persons with different experience and decide at the Kesb always backgrounds.

What could improve the Kesb in yourself?
Our dealing with contested cases in child protection. We need to distinguish: Where it’s just arguing parents and where the child is at risk of serious? When it comes to a parents ‘ quarrel, we should make it like the dishes: try, in the course of negotiations, an agreement between the father and the mother. We have to show the parents their responsibility for the child to manage, instead of their argument.

there Would be a counter-proposal, if the Initiative comes from?
The need to decide the policy. We apply the law, and it is an excellent act with a good legal protection for the Affected. I wonder if the initiators have read the law and understood it. Politicians are now lost, and say, why the Parliament has adopted with only two votes against the law. Because it is good and well thought out is because it promotes self-determination, and the family solidarity strengthens.

(editing Tamedia)

Created: 27.03.2019, 20:07 PM