Mr Pofalla, it will be a lot of arguing about the future of mobility. At one point there is agreement: The rail transport is to be strengthened. You have to imagine Ronald Pofalla as a happy person?
I am glad that the railway sector is occurring today, with its core concern is closed with respect to the policy – for example, in the Digital Track in Germany. That was when I came to the Deutsche Bahn, is different. The rail transport is, in my view, is economically quite significant, such as the automotive industry.
Finance and The Minister of transport to promote the car industry in the field of electric mobility, stronger and longer. At the expense of the web?
The promotion is right. We reach the climate protection targets for the transport sector only if the private transport is electrified. I don’t see any contrast to the Rail. We travel in long-distance traffic today even with 100 percent green electricity. The different modes of transport need to be networked, on the contrary, on a mobility platform stronger. That’s the future.
The railway is losing the climate bonus, if cars are getting cleaner.
no, we don’t lose him. CO2 emissions per passenger, the train remains unbeatable. The energy efficiency of the railway compared to the road superbly. And we increase the share of renewable energy to our power consumption this year to 60 percent. There are no other modes of transport, with a comparable proportion.
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elsewhere On the track is below average. Minister of transport, Scheuer wants to see in the punctuality to the middle of the year progress. Can you supply?
We have made every effort to increase our quality. The punctuality increases. We had in February, a rate of 80 percent, in March, we were at about 78.4 percent in the first three months, an average of 78.2 percent. Our goal for 2019 76.5 percent. Since we have reduced the reserves in the first quarter.
It should be more than 82 percent.
We set realistic goals, because the capacity of the vehicles, the infrastructure and the personnel are missing. In 95 percent of the rail network, there is no difficulty, but on the remaining five percent, we drive with a capacity of up to 140 percent. This concerns, among other things, the major railway node. The radiates to the entire network. We are the change. The group’s Executive Board has proposed to the Supervisory Board in its “Agenda for a better rail” also, 9000 additional employees. Alone 22 000 Jobs, we occupy this year. The must come first. In addition, we invest in the coming years, up to ten billion euros in new vehicles.
you negotiate with the government over the financing of the group, the performance and financing agreement III (Agreement). Will there be a reference?
We are in good conversations. For the digitization of the infrastructure, it should be up to 2023 570 million Euro. In the benchmark decision of the Federal government, a billion euros more. Thus, the annual budget increased from 3.5 to 4.5 billion euros. I am the Federal government is grateful. However, we continue to negotiate, because this increase of funds sufficient to our backlog to resolve during the maintenance.
How much you need.
For the Agreement III-the period from 2020 until the end of 2024 is not enough a billion euros. I am confident that we will succeed, in the framework of the Agreement III for the capacity already at the end of Build – building measures, so as to disturb the railway operation in the less – an additional amount in the low three-digit million range per year.
you Can use the money at all?
Yes, we are technical, planning and personnel prepared. With 10.7 billion euros, we do not invest in 2019, as much in the network since privatisation.
Less prone to interference, the network is not to become like the many delays.
This is wrong. All the data show the opposite. We have halved the measurable error, in which we the quality of the network can be read, since 2010. What is true is that we dismantle at the end of the Agreement II period up to the end of 2019, the maintenance backlog, because construction prices have risen in the last two years.
There are at times per day 900 sites in the network. This is still manageable?
There is even at times on the order of 1000 sites a day. We have had in the past two years, 20 percent more construction sites, but at the same time a decrease in network-related disorders through the Build to 27 percent. Here, we can do even more – in planning, in construction, in the formation of Baukorridoren or when capacity has already been Build. If all the measures are in effect, then, we want to be able to reduce the previous limitations of the capacity by a third. And to be punctual.
digitization of the train control system ETCS, signals, cables and switches replaced, up to 20 per cent more trains on the tracks, without tracks need to be built. When will the customers of this?
today you can experience it on our connection between Berlin and Munich, which is Essentially digitized. Here we go with a punctuality of more than 80 percent. The core network, we want to digitize up to 2030. Already by the mid-2020s, we will digitize about the European programs of 2000 kilometers. In addition, we the government have proposed a start-up package for the digitalization in the amount of 1.5 billion euros for 2020 to 2025. The first part is already funded.
Also, the trains need to be equipped with ETCS technology. Per train is calculated with a cost of 500 000 Euro. But there is still no funding from the Federal government.
The process must run in parallel. It would be absurd, and the government too, so if we digitize only the infrastructure, but no vehicles. That would be so, as when building roads, but no cars that drive on it.
dangers on the route Berlin-Munich, a freight train? That was the goal.
no, for several reasons. The routes are more expensive and to be avoided for reasons of cost of freight transport companies. Specific Lengths can’t drive also because the necessary technology has yet to be installed. Next year it will go off with the goods traffic on the track in my estimation.
The government’s expected doubling of passenger rail will not create numbers up to 2030?
We roll up, of course, the Sleeves. The goal, however, the President of the Federal government in the coalition agreement. In the stone is not carved by 2030. And to be able to reach the goal, you must make the policy of great steps to strengthen the Rail. Example: Germany-cycle that comes only from 2030 and the transport, long-distance transport, rail and Bus in Germany to each other to vote.
Mr Pofalla, please complete three sentences : My best train experience in the past twelve months, was …
… as I spilled a Cup of coffee and a customer with Kleenex has helped to reduce the number of stains on my shirt.
In the negotiations with the Minister of Finance it is especially important that …
… to argue in a factual and objective.
When I train-in-chief would not be …
… I am, therefore, I’m not even concerned with.
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